she writes a regular column and lisa ling and larry king. larry, people refer to oprah as a golden touch. what do you think is behind her many successes? >> i think she is every woman. it sounded like this was her last day. she's got quite a ways to go. i think she touched everybody. there was something about her. she wasn't black, she wasn't white. she was just everybody. she -- despite being enormously rich, she understands the calamities of the poor. she could make a book. she could break someone. she could make -- i think she had a lot to do with the election of obama. i do not diminish her in any way. i think she's the strongest force in television today, individually, and maybe ever. >> suze, you're a regular guest on her show. what do you think separates her from the rest? >> i think it's her understanding and her connection, anderson, with the person that she happens to be interviewing at the time. it's almost as if she becomes part of that person's life and can bring things out so that her entire viewing audience can understand the